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With a MBR setup like this, you lose 255k per death.
Say you die... 5 times in an uncapped. Say goodbye to 1.28 mil from YOUR bank.
The top clans get 200-300+ kills per fight, so let's say a war has 500 kills in total.
We're looking at a cumulative loss of 128m = this goes either to looters or disappears from the economy entirely.
Clans get no profit from wars.
The losses aside, you're just return to a lagfest for several hours.
You have just the incentive of making a clan fights topic to boost your clan's reputation and get some recruits.
And you're also hoping everything goes perfectly and you don't end up continuing the fight on RSC.
Yeah I'm putting it in a negative light, because RSC clans ourselves are in a negative light.
We're dying out, and the constant crashing/flaming/NH doesn't seem to want to let up.
So I've decided to look at alternative approaches.
You may remember my post concerning the money pouch.
We like pouching, right?
Well it's nice if clans would use it in PKing, but no one PKs anymore.
It's really sort-of biased to single players involving in one select activity (looting).
Not a direct help for clans right now.
So, what would be?
PvP CoinShare.
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Imagine a system so that when a clan gets a kill in the wilderness, all the drops are sold at mid value on the GE (or whatever happens) and the cumulative money is equally shared to all the members of the clan who aided in the kill (straight to their money pouches).
Here's a scenario: your clan pulls 180 opts and you win a PKRI with a kd of 200-60.
You died once, so you lose your 250k.
However your clan got 200 kills between 60 members, so you also have earned around 850k.
It's not much, but it gives clans (and members) another small incentive to perform their best and win.
It doesn't cause harm to fighting (no time wasted looting), eliminates looters* and you always retain your original risk.
But overall, it brings profit to clan warring.
We want to bring new blood into the clan world, right?
What if we could start letting non-clanners know they can actually make money from PKRIs?
The Mechanics...
If you're interested in the specifics of how I think it would work, read the spoiler.
I don't recommend it, it's a tl;dr.
We needed to find ways around some problems which prevented it's earlier implimentation.
This is all still being discussed, so nothing is final and things may be added/removed - this is just my first concept.
Jagex's take...
PvP lootshare is something Jagex have actually wanted to impliment for a long time.
Unfortunately there have been complications which prevented it, such as:
Leaders with access, QFC 86-87-333-63541036
But first, I need to ask:
Do you actually want PvP loot/coinshare?
Post your support if you do, or post why if you don't.
If you've read the mechanics, are you in agreement or what would you change?
The chances of it being implimented are good, but nothing's final, so it's your chance to have your say.
Read the spoiler if you want me to stop making topics and/or talking to Jagex:
With a MBR setup like this, you lose 255k per death.
Say you die... 5 times in an uncapped. Say goodbye to 1.28 mil from YOUR bank.
The top clans get 200-300+ kills per fight, so let's say a war has 500 kills in total.
We're looking at a cumulative loss of 128m = this goes either to looters or disappears from the economy entirely.
Clans get no profit from wars.
The losses aside, you're just return to a lagfest for several hours.
You have just the incentive of making a clan fights topic to boost your clan's reputation and get some recruits.
And you're also hoping everything goes perfectly and you don't end up continuing the fight on RSC.
Yeah I'm putting it in a negative light, because RSC clans ourselves are in a negative light.
We're dying out, and the constant crashing/flaming/NH doesn't seem to want to let up.
So I've decided to look at alternative approaches.
You may remember my post concerning the money pouch.
We like pouching, right?
Well it's nice if clans would use it in PKing, but no one PKs anymore.
It's really sort-of biased to single players involving in one select activity (looting).
Not a direct help for clans right now.
So, what would be?
PvP CoinShare.
__________________________________________________________________________
Imagine a system so that when a clan gets a kill in the wilderness, all the drops are sold at mid value on the GE (or whatever happens) and the cumulative money is equally shared to all the members of the clan who aided in the kill (straight to their money pouches).
Here's a scenario: your clan pulls 180 opts and you win a PKRI with a kd of 200-60.
You died once, so you lose your 250k.
However your clan got 200 kills between 60 members, so you also have earned around 850k.
It's not much, but it gives clans (and members) another small incentive to perform their best and win.
It doesn't cause harm to fighting (no time wasted looting), eliminates looters* and you always retain your original risk.
But overall, it brings profit to clan warring.
We want to bring new blood into the clan world, right?
What if we could start letting non-clanners know they can actually make money from PKRIs?
Spoiler
__________________________________________________________________________The Mechanics...
If you're interested in the specifics of how I think it would work, read the spoiler.
I don't recommend it, it's a tl;dr.
We needed to find ways around some problems which prevented it's earlier implimentation.
This is all still being discussed, so nothing is final and things may be added/removed - this is just my first concept.
Spoiler
__________________________________________________________________________Jagex's take...
PvP lootshare is something Jagex have actually wanted to impliment for a long time.
Unfortunately there have been complications which prevented it, such as:
- - Wilderness isn't instanced (who's actually with the clan?)
- - PvP combat works differently from PvM (how do we determine who gets drops?)
- - Issue of leechers, etc. in FC
Leaders with access, QFC 86-87-333-63541036
But first, I need to ask:
Do you actually want PvP loot/coinshare?
Post your support if you do, or post why if you don't.
If you've read the mechanics, are you in agreement or what would you change?
The chances of it being implimented are good, but nothing's final, so it's your chance to have your say.
Read the spoiler if you want me to stop making topics and/or talking to Jagex:
Spoiler